Posts by Nathan Natas

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The Watchtower Tract Society doesn't print Bibles?

by Nathan Natas in

after reading a few comments here, i thought it was time for me to get a copy of "the silver sword" for my own occasional research and occult practices.

so i thought i would see if jw.org would offer a way that i could purchase a printed copy (not digital) of the new world translation.

as i browsed, it occurred to me that i might also like to have a copy of the... what was it?

Nathan Natas

Right after I posted the opening message, I did as LV101 suggested and went onto eBay.com, where I found both the RNWT and The Bible In Living English in gently (I hope!) used condition, but at prices somewhat higher than I had hoped; just under $47 for both. YIKES!

It occurs to me that an enterprising "minister of the Word of God" could easily corner the admittedly small market in PRINTED Watchtower bibles by offering NEW, UNUSED copies at reasonable prices, plus shipping. In the USA "Priority Mail" is a FAST and cost-effective option for those who don't mind spending a bit more to get their parcel in less than 4 days, coast-to-coast. For those on a tight budget, the old "Book Rate" - now called "Media Mail" - is still available. Yes, it IS slow, but at least it is not fast, and any messy time-displacement paradoxes will be totally avoided!

(Personally, I HATE book rate, though Benjamin Franklin might find his head spinning at the very idea of coast-to-coast in a mere eternity, but Ben's headbone ain't anchored as firmly as it once was.)

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The Watchtower Tract Society doesn't print Bibles?

by Nathan Natas in

after reading a few comments here, i thought it was time for me to get a copy of "the silver sword" for my own occasional research and occult practices.

so i thought i would see if jw.org would offer a way that i could purchase a printed copy (not digital) of the new world translation.

as i browsed, it occurred to me that i might also like to have a copy of the... what was it?

Nathan Natas

Hey, if any of you are still "active" and would like to sell me a couple of Bibles, I would be happy to do a transaction with you. Your identity will be protected by me and I have a "dead drop" I can use to protect my identity.

- Mr. Shizzle Beefbroth

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The Watchtower Tract Society doesn't print Bibles?

by Nathan Natas in

after reading a few comments here, i thought it was time for me to get a copy of "the silver sword" for my own occasional research and occult practices.

so i thought i would see if jw.org would offer a way that i could purchase a printed copy (not digital) of the new world translation.

as i browsed, it occurred to me that i might also like to have a copy of the... what was it?

Nathan Natas

After reading a few comments here, I thought it was time for me to get a copy of "The Silver Sword" for my own occasional research and occult practices.

So I thought I would see if JW.ORG would offer a way that I could PURCHASE a PRINTED COPY (not digital) of The New World Translation. As I browsed, it occurred to me that I might also like to have a copy of the... what was it? the Byington Bible. The translation that the WTS (Watchtower Tract Society) bough so they could suppress it.

I was really surprised to discover that NO bibles of any version are available in printed Form!

Of course all of the so-called "Bible study aids" are available in printed form, but no Bibles!

I find this remarkable, but as time passes I find myself more and more easily amazed.

Huh.

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not nor ever was a jw, but...

by sting of truth in

jw
friends

hi all my name is chad.

i'm a christian.

i operate a small non denominational ministry.

Nathan Natas

Just wondering, SOT, if you take a tax exemption for your ministerial activities?

Perhaps you can offer us advice on how we can avoid taxes by claiming our home is a church? Hmmm?

You seem bashful, Chad.

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Christian or Atheists?

by Skipper254 in

in my brief time on this site, i've come to realize that most people who have been shunned or stray away from the jehovah witnesses normally end up having no faith at all.

my curiosity has led me to the conclusion that the gb has created more atheists than believers...... .

Nathan Natas

I have often said that BAPTISM is the first step in becoming an XJW, but I think the first step in any person becoming an atheist is listening to a theologian of any persuasion and coming to the conclusion "This is bullshit."

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not nor ever was a jw, but...

by sting of truth in

jw
friends

hi all my name is chad.

i'm a christian.

i operate a small non denominational ministry.

Nathan Natas

Hi Chard! I'm an atheist! Still wanna be friends?

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VIDEO - Memorial toast stuns Jehovahs Witnesses congregation!

by John_Carter_1912 in

i applaud this great and holy man!

do you?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fstqepi9iu.

Nathan Natas

Here's my two-cents:

How would you react if the video showed a JW "speaking out" in churcg during the funeral of Senator John McCain?

I think you'd agree it would have been outrageous.

What is outrage for the goose is outrage for the gander.

I think I understand the personal pain that might drive a person to do this, but I doubt that it accomplishes anything other than reinforcing the notion among the JWs that they are being "persecuted" because they are "True Christians."

Don't do this.

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To All Current Jehovah's Witnesses: When Apostasy Occurs...Where Do You Go?

by Observer1217 in

where did david go when king saul turned apostate?.

where was elijah found when israel went off into apostasy?.

where was john the baptist found when israel fell into apostasy?.

Nathan Natas

Hi Observer217, do you mind if I call you Don?

First, my condolences on the deaths of your parents.

I noticed, "We are fast approaching [the] 28th Anniversary [of]... the Y.O.R.W.W. Congregation, a name that means “Yah Our Righteousness World Wide.” This group started in the spring of 1991, with the formation of 16-members, all Ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses themselves, all gathered together for the exact same purpose, namely to serve Jehovah God, in “spirit and truth,” away from the APOSTASY brewing among the kingdom halls of Jehovah’s Witnesses, as Jesus recommended and exemplified in his life..."

Don, I've often wondered, because I think - maybe I'm mistaken - that one other name by which your group was known is (or was) "Two Witnesses Must Come"; if YOU, Donald C. Burney, are one witness, who is witness #2?

Thanks for your time.

Try to be more open with your prospective audience and don't cloak yourself in such mystery and obfuscation.

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Iran vs. Israel - could it be the beginning of Armageddon?

by tartarus in

i have recently read in the news that an attack on iran is planned sometime after the olympics in beijing.

here's a bit of background to it:.

when irans fledgling democracy was overthrown with support of cia the shah of iran was giving israel free oil thru a pipeline that still runs thru saudi arabia to a refinery in the israeli city of haifa.

Nathan Natas

This thread is ELEVEN YEARS OLD!!!

What does that tell you?

Repeat after me: "There will be wars, and rumors of war, but Armageddon is an IMAGINARY metaphysical event and will NEVER happen."

When Planet X re-enters the plane of the ecliptic, collides with earth and makes stardust of it, even THAT will not be Armageddon! It is interesting to me that the real-world likelihood of the event I describe is vanishingly small, especially during our lifetimes, it is INFINITELY greater than the likelihood of Armageddon, yet people are eager to put their money on the horse named "Flight of the Imagination."

Sorry to disappoint you.

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Enjoyed the Memorial

by ScottyRex in

probably not a popular opinion on here....and haven't been actively attending meetings since 1988....(i know i know a submarine attender) however thoroughly enjoyed attending this evening...was good to see lots of people i remember whilst growing up in this faith, they were genuine and the whole atmosphere was one of love.

sure if i suddenly wanted to become active again and didn't change my lifestyle they would drop me like a bomb.....however i haven't and won't and they didn't and don't.

this works for me.. i cannot demonize the witnesses on what i have seen tonight.

Nathan Natas

Hi Scot-T-Rex!

I want to invite you to the UADNA Orbiting Space Platform anytime at all for a glass of NO wine and NO matzoh.

We're up there, just to the left of Jesus' Throne. You can't miss us.